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The Iran War Expert: I Simulated The Iran War for 20 Years. Here’s What Happens Next

with Steven Bartlett

1h 29m12 Mar 20265.2M views
Steven Bartlett

Episode Overview

White House war advisor ROBERT PAPE reveals why Trump is trapped in a war with Iran, the risk of a nuclear breakout, the role of China in the conflict, and how the US is losing control of the Middle East.

Robert Pape is a renowned political scientist and director of the Chicago Project on Security and Threats. He has advised every White House since 9/11 on military strategy and is the author of Bombing to Win: Air Power and Coercion in War.

He explains:

▪️The 3 stages of the escalation trap locking the US into war

▪️Why precision smart bombs trick leaders into strategic failure

▪️The hidden reality of Iran's 400kg enriched uranium stockpile

▪️How killing the Supreme Leader made the Iranian regime more resilient

▪️The pattern that connects Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran

(00:00) Intro

(02:01) What’s Really Happening In The World Right Now

(04:01) I’ve Worked With The White House For The Last 20 Years

(04:48) What Iran War Simulations Reveal About The Next Conflict

(08:56) What Really Happened When The U.S. Bombed Iran’s Nuclear Sites

(11:57) Does Removing A Leader Actually Collapse A Regime?

(16:05) Iran’s New Supreme Leader May Be Even More Hostile To The U.S.

(26:04) The Escalation Scenario Most People Aren’t Paying Attention To

(41:12) Ads

(43:11) What The Next U.S.–Iran War Could Actually Look Like

(47:31) What Happens If The U.S. Hadn’t Bombed Iran - Would War Be Worse?

(52:06) Does Trump Really Influence Netanyahu’s Decisions?

(54:02) Are Trump’s Global Decisions Driven By Legacy?

(1:04:30) Could The World Be Heading Toward Another Genocide?

(1:05:52) What Happens After “Stage 3”

(1:07:14) Ads

(1:12:11) China’s Quiet Strategy For Global Dominance

(1:13:15) Is America’s Superpower Era Ending?

(1:16:29) Why China May Benefit From A U.S. Conflict With Iran

(1:22:51) The Real Long-Term Prize The U.S. Is Fighting For

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